I Think Enough’s Enough

It is now almost eight weeks after the Australian Federal Election of November 24th, 2007 and still, almost half the traffic to the Wind Farm continues to do with people either looking for answers, or fuel for their fires, regarding Danny Nalliah.

In the first instance, Robert Holmes and I published our prophetic insight regarding the election as an audio interview, which you can still listen to here. We did so partly as a response to Danny’s prophecy, but mainly because Robert and I believed we had some prophetic insight into the election which we felt would be beneficial to the Christian community.

After the election result, our subsequent "calling out" of Danny in the public arena was indeed partly designed as a peer-level rebuke. But its main purpose was to provoke a response from Danny, because he had proven difficult to access personally in order for us to share our concerns with him privately. We had hoped to engage him in an ongoing dialogue with a view to forming some kind of relationship that would ultimately prove to be a healthy one; beneficial to us all.

To some degree, our actions have had their desired effect. I have now had the opporunity to speak with Danny personally and I have also had an excellent discussion with his pastor, Richard Warner. Richard, in turn, has set up some time for Danny and Robert Holmes to finally meet for, what we hope, will be the first of many friendly and fruitful times together.

With this in mind, it seems pointless to me to leave material on this website that may now simply fuel the fire, when what Robert and I are now looking for, is a way to apply a healing balm to the matter for the profit of all.

Therefore, all but the initial prophecy and this explanation has now been pulled down.

After eight weeks, I believe we should all now have enough information to make an informed personal decision about these issues. If not, then I would ask, what are we all looking for? Are we trying to simply pick another fight? Are we trying to prove ourselves right? Or worse, are we actually baying for Danny’s blood?

I for one am definitely not without sin, so I’m laying down my stones. To coin a Dr Phil-ism, I don’t want to be a "right fighter" .. I want to be a heart winner! So, if I am honest in what I’m hearing the soft, still voice of God whispering to me, I would have to say that what began in good intention, has become a distraction of grand proportions from the Work of God entrusted to me .. so it is time to move on.

To Danny and all my readers .. if my actions or language, in anything you have read here on the Wind Farm, has come off as arrogant, inappropriate or downright proud .. I offer you my humble and unreserved apology. To those readers who may be wondering why I’m taking this step .. I would say that while I am glad to have initiated what was hopefully some healthy debate about the issues related to this matter, it is not my intention to spend more time than is neccesary on it, nor do I desire to perpetuate what may ultimately become a toxic discussion if it is carried on too long.

Let’s all choose to trust that God is moving on all the hearts concerned and that He will work it all out to His glory, for we are indeed all called according to His purposes.

May the Kingdom come in our hearts and ultimately on the earth!

Kerry

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The Process We Employed with Danny Nalliah

Like I said in one of my previous posts, I am not interested in trying to "rub Danny’s nose in his own mess", but I am deeply convicted that I must try to help Danny, and others connected to his camp, to see the damage that has been done. 

For approximately five months I have been working steadily toward opening some kind of dialogue with Danny personally.

In late August / early September 2007, Robert Holmes and I wrote the first of two letters to Danny’s Melbourne offices. To date, neither of these has been specifically replied to nor our concerns specifically answered.

After due process was given and sufficient time allowed, both of these letters were subsequently published as open letters on both the Storm Harvest and Wind Farm websites. This was partly done in order to provoke at least some kind of response because Danny has proven extremely elusive in terms of being able to make direct contact with him.

The initial response, weeks after we published these letters, was that I had two very lengthy, but ultimately beneficial telephone conversations with an Assemblies of God pastor in Maitland named Bob Cotton, who is a long-time friend and strong ministry supporter of Danny and Catch the Fire Ministries.

These two calls totalled almost five hours with the first of these conversations initiated by Bob at Danny’s request.

After many weeks of trying, I was finally able to speak to Danny himself just prior to Christmas. We spent about 45 minutes in discussion, with only about 20 minutes of that being related to the specific issues in question.

A part of what I am at liberty to tell you about that conversation is that I learned the specific details about his meetings with both Peter Costello and John Howard in August, 2007.

I also learned that Danny employed the flawed practice of "throwing out a fleece" as a major foundation for his "prophetic process".

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Responding to Mrs S. Anderson

You would have noticed by now, that the frequency of new content on the Wind Farm has slowed down a little in the last month or so. There are a variety of reasons for that, but the primary one is, that I didn’t want to keep posting new content until I felt I had brought a measure of closure to the whole issue of Danny Nalliah and the Australian Federal Election of November last year.

Before I give you a report on our efforts so far, allow me to respond to Mrs S. Anderson’s comment on my previous post. She writes .. "I don’t mean to be rude, but I am wondering by what authority you make some of these statements…I mean who are you and what gives you the authority to censure and correct? I have been a christian for 30 years in the evangelical and pentecostal church and I have never heard of either you or your other writer"  (meaning Robert Holmes).

That’s a great question Mrs Anderson! (Her thoughful, heartfelt comment can be read in its entirety here). She raises two very valid and important issues to which I’d like to respond in reverse order.

"I have been a christian for 30 years in the evangelical and pentecostal church and I have never heard of either you or your other writer."

Until today, I had never heard of Mrs S. Anderson either. But because I do not know her, it does not invalidate her. I must take it on trust that she is who she says she is .. and I do indeed trust that all she has said about her life experience is true.

Likewise, I too have been a committed Christian for 30 years in the evangelical and Pentecostal church. The last 15 of those years has been spent largely in prophetic ministry. I have a well-received prophetic curriculum available on-line free-of-charge at The Green Tree, I have travelled extensively in prophetic ministry over many years and have keynoted many prophetic conferences, schools and intensives. I am also a standing invitee to the Australian Prophetic Round Table which is a group of recognised prophetic ministries all working toward finding a way to walk together in close relationship, hopefully, to the profit of all.

However, I also recognise the truth in principle behind Paul’s statement in 1 Corinthians 9:2, in which he says "Even though I may not be an apostle to others, surely I am to you."  In other words, Paul is acknowledging that his ministry is recognised by some and not by others .. and he’s OK with that, knowing that this does not invalidate him. In the case of Mrs S. Anderson never having heard of me .. I’m totally OK with that too .. but likewise, that does not invalidate my own place of ministry, service and responsibility among the Body of Christ.

"… by what authority do you make some of these statements …"

The short answer is .. absolutely none. The slightly longer answer is based on an understanding of four passages of Scripture …

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A Danny Nalliah Update .. and a Blessing

Well, happy new year!!  It is the afternoon of the 2nd of January 2008 and even though I’ve had some time off … I’m weary.

The two weeks leading up to Christmas were frantic in terms of my broadcasting load. As an example, one day in the fortnight prior to Christmas, I covered 7½ hours of radio and voiced 35 commercials in a single day. That’s insane!!

From there, the few days prior to Christmas were equally busy with my wife’s sister, our brother-in-law and our beautiful little niece landing on us from New Zealand to stay for 10 days. They arrived just in time for my wife’s birthday which saw 17 of us gather for dinner. Then a few days later it was the "late night" of Christmas Eve, as last minute preparations needed to be made. On top of our NZ family being with us for Christmas, we also had my Mum and Dad staying for Christmas Eve, Christmas Day and Boxing Day. We had a full house .. and VERY full bellies!

Boxing Day saw us host our first family Christmas season meal at our home. So again, the day after Christmas, we had nearly 20 people gather and I handled most of the cooking for the day. I bake a mean glazed ham on the barbecue, let me tell you!

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Remove the skin and excess fat from the ham leg. Score the ham with a knife about 0.5cm deep in a criss-cross fashion. Where the scores meet in a kind of cross, push a whole clove into each score. Then take 1½ cups of bourbon, 3 cups of pineapple juice and ½ cup of maple syrup, all mixed together in a bowl, and regularly baste the ham (like every 10-15 minutes) using a turkey baster (this is waaaaay easier than using a brush .. I found that out the hard way).

Bake it on your hooded barbecue on a wire rack inside a roasting tray, at no more than 150° celcius for about three hours. But here’s the BIG secret. Regularly sprinkle Muscavardo Sugar on it after each time you’ve basted it. This sugar is unrefined and full of natural molasses which aids in adding a dark toffee colour and lovely flavour to the glaze.

Once it’s done, let it rest uncovered for about half an hour to cool a little. Preferably do this inside to protect the ham from bugs that will be attracted to the sweetness. Then carve, serve and eat it. Sensational!

Add to that, I made an early-morning round-trip to the Sydney International Airport this morning to drop our New Zealand family off for their flight home. We’re all feeling tired, but also a little sad today, because it may be another couple of years before we again all get to see these precious people who mean so very much to us.

DANNY NALLIAH UPDATE

I am still working diligently on holding Danny Nalliah accountable for his failed prophecy over the recent Federal Election. I am not interested in trying to "rub Danny’s nose in his own mess", but am deeply convicted that I must help Danny, and others connected to his camp, to see the damage that has been done over his subsequent poor handling of the failed word. I am determined to not let this matter drop until we gain a suitable and appropriate response from Danny for the praying public of Australia. At this stage, I am not yet ready to present a full report to you on the matter .. but I am almost there.

What I can report is, that I have had two very lengthy, but ultimately beneficial discussions with Bob Cotton; an AOG pastor in Maitland, a long-time friend and strong ministry supporter of Danny and Catch the Fire Ministries. The first of these conversations was initiated by Bob at Danny’s request, with Danny apparently concerned over whether we were going to deal with him harshly. Hence, he let Bob do the leg work prior to being willing to personally speak with either Robert Holmes or myself.

However, after many weeks of trying through correspondence sent to Danny’s office, plus communicating through the "Cotton filter" (pardon the pun), I was finally able to speak to Danny himself. We spent about 45 minutes in discussion. It was friendly and worthwhile, but frustrating at the same time, as there is still a long way to go with much more of future importance to Danny that needs to be discussed.

At this stage, I have one more telephone conversation to make with someone connected to Danny and, once that call has been made, I will issue a full report on these discussions, the position Danny verbalised to me personally, and ultimately our ongoing concerns over this matter. I will also be sure to include the reasons why neither Robert nor I are prepared to let this matter be swept under the carpet.

I know you have been waiting patiently for much longer than I’d hoped, and I’d like to thank you for your patience, but I want to assure you that we are indeed still working on it and more information will be available shortly.

In the meantime, the following is my prayer for you in 2008 …

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Danny Nalliah and the Australian Federal Election

In the wake of the Australian Federal Election and my previous post about it, my good friend Robert Holmes of Storm Harvest and myself are not particularly concerned about who got it right and who got it wrong in relation to the many prophetic predictions about the election’s outcome. Our primary concern now is for the many people who are feeling devastated, confused and let down, not only by the outcome, but by the way it’s now being handled by some outspoken ministries. At the moment, our primary concern is for the conduct of Danny Nalliah of Catch the Fire Ministries.

For the record, as a broadcaster and fellow minister, I have been a strong supporter of Danny Nalliah through my radio shows. You can read the transcripts of my comments and even hear the interview I did with Dr Helen Zsoke, head of the Victorian Equal Opportunity Commission, challenging her over the lack of logical rationale regarding Danny’s persecution over his right to free speech in Australia. (The podcasts can be downloaded and the transcripts can be read here, here and here.)

Danny is an outstanding evangelist, a passionate (and at times naïve) lover of Australia as his adopted homeland, and a courageous advocate for free speech in Australia. These things have had abundant grace and favour upon them, but not so his foray into the realm of national prophetic ministry, particularly in relation to Australia’s Federal Government.

But the horse has bolted in regard to Danny stepping outside the safety of his sphere of anointed ministry, therefore, our concern now is very much for Danny’s poor handling of the outcomes of his prophetic predictions.

At basically the same time of the first post on the Wind Farm about the Federal Election, Robert and I wrote to Danny Nalliah on 6th October, 2007, in the hope of engaging him in a relational dialogue over our concerns about his conduct in handling his prophetic predictions.

To date, we are yet to receive a reply to our gentle but clear request.

Further, we are now all the more concerned over Danny’s clear attempt to shift all responsibility to the Australian church for his predictions failing to come to pass. Our hearts are saddened, and indeed, Robert and I believe that the heart of God is grieving over such conduct.

So, in an effort to again reach out to him relationally, we wrote to Danny a second time on 30th November, 2007. We decided to give him the same time frame to reply to us, as it took him to speak publicly about the outcomes, i.e., five days, before publishing the content of our second letter.

We had hoped that common courtesy and good sense would have prevailed, but sadly, we must now report that Danny has again failed to respond with even an acknowledgement of receipt. We have even gone as far as to post the following letter as a comment on Danny’s site, but it is still being moderated and we suspect it will not make it to publication. Robert and I have done so in the hope it may provoke a response from Danny in order to open a dialogue, but this too seems unlikely.

Therefore, with heavy hearts, our second letter to Danny is now published below, in order to demonstrate that the heart of God is still very much toward the praying church and toward Australia, regardless of the outcome of this election.

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A Word About the Up-Coming Federal Election

ImageOn Wednesday 22nd August, 2007, my good friend Robert Holmes of Storm Harvest and I, had a telephone conversation in which we discussed Australia’s up-coming Federal Election. Together, we shared our insights about what we perceive will be the likely outcomes of the election. That conversation was recorded in the Green Tree Ministries studio and is presented below for your input, discernment and prayer.

It is interesting to note that since this conversation was recorded, Prime Minister John Howard has come under significant pressure from a number of quarters, to stand down and hand over leadership of the Liberal Party and the Prime Ministership to his deputy, Peter Costello.

At the same time, Kevin Rudd appears to have won significant favour with the Chinese Prime Minister because of his ability to hold what seemed to be an engaging series of conversations in fluent Mandarin.

A part of what motivated our discussion was our concern over Pastor Danny Nallliah of Catch the Fire Ministries having sent out the e-mail below to an extensive mailing list of Christian supporters. As you prepare to read it, allow me to preface it by saying that if Danny’s predictive prophecy to both John Howard and Peter Costello is correct, then, in the light of the pressure being brought to bear on John Howard to stand down, it will only be an extremely short-term fulfillment.

Please be clear that neither Robert or